Literary Apologetics: An Interview with Dr Holly Ordway

I was recently a guest on Nick Peters’ Deeper Waters podcast, where I spent two hours discussing literary apologetics with him – and the time flew by!

You can listen here.

The conversation included:

  • why literature is important for everyone
  • why Christian apologists specifically can benefit from reading fiction,
  • why it’s important to understand literary genre when reading Scripture, and what “literal” literally means,
  • what an allegory is and why neither the Chronicles of Narnia nor The Lord of the Rings are allegories,
  • why horror fiction can be valuable for Christians (with a shout-out to Garret Johnson who’s written an excellent series on Hieropraxis about weird fiction),
  • why Beowulf is a fantastic poem,
  • who the Inklings are… and more.

Not surprisingly, I also referenced my colleague Dr. Michael Ward on several occasions during the podcast, as he’s doing the very best work out there on C.S. Lewis and imaginative and literary apologetics. Go read his book Planet Narnia: The Seven Heavens in the Imagination of C.S. Lewis.

Oh, and I happened to mention that if you find all of this fascinating, you can come study with me and Dr. Ward at HBU in the MA in Apologetics… which is now approved for 100% online delivery starting in Fall 2014!

If you are interested in literary and imaginative apologetics, this is the place to be, and now you can do the MAA from anywhere in the world. Come join us! (more info at )

Here’s the link to the podcast:


Dr. Holly Ordway is a poet, academic, and Christian apologist. She is the chair of the Department of Apologetics and director of the MA in Cultural Apologetics at Houston Baptist University, and the author of Not God’s Type (2010; 2nd ed. forthcoming, 2014, Ignatius Press). Her work focuses on imaginative and literary apologetics, with special attention to C.S. Lewis and Charles Williams.


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