Aug 10, 2012

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The Correct View of Creation?

In a previous post, I addressed how the rhetoric and views of some young earth creationists pose a threat to the task of an apologist. Some young earth proponents contend that the message of the Bible itself is in jeopardy if their hermeneutic[1] is not followed. Such an exclusionary view makes it impossible to consider any other view of the creation narratives. To even consider the arguments for another view is to reject the very foundations of Christianity itself! (While such a summary might seem hyperbolic, I can assure it is not.)

In these next two posts I would like to address a weakness that is common to many of the views of creation. This weakness is not found in the philosophy, theology, or rhetoric of the different views, rather it is the certainty associated with these views that I wish to address. While I believe my argument is extensible to other views, in these posts I focus on young earth (YEC), old earth or progressive creationism (OEC), and the framework view. For the remainder of this post, I will describe how these views address four different topics within this debate.

What are the Days of Genesis? This question is probably the best known and most controversial. The YEC position is that the creation week was 144 hours long divided into 7, 24-hour days. The OEC view is that the days represent a sequence of long periods of time. This is also referred to as the “day-age” view. Under the framework view, the creation week of Genesis 1 is a literary structure representing a topical, rather than chronological, presentation of God’s creative works. While these seem to be three completely different perspectives, I would like to highlight how much the YEC and OEC views have in common when contrasted against the framework view. Put simply, both views treat the days of Genesis as a “literal,” chronological sequence. While both views have divergent, but legitimate claims on a literal view of yom, these differences seem to be in a completely different category relative to the framework view.

What is relationship between science and the creation narratives? The question of how science and Christianity interact generates an immense controversy without any particular context. My point here is not to wade into that somewhat intractable discussion (in which I am, based on my studies to date, biased), rather I simply want to point out that here the young earth view and the framework view have something in common. For slightly different reasons, both views tend to argue that science should not have any bearing on how scripture is interpreted. Scripture should always have the final say. In practice, what this means is that the interpretation of the theologian takes precedence over the interpretation of the scientist. This is contrast to the concordism usually associated with the old earth view.

Like many “ism”s there are varying degrees of concordism. The definition I am most comfortable with is that where the Bible and science address the same topic, the interpretations of science and the Bible will be consistent, they will not contradict each other. For example, the Bible is the only religious text that indicates the universe (matter, space, time and energy) came into existence from nothing (ex nihilo) a finite time ago. Since the 1960s, there has been steady progress toward greater and greater support for big bang cosmology. Another and opposite example would be the origin of life. While a segment of the scientific community would deny or at least defer talking about it, there has been continual negative progress[2] toward any workable theory of abiogenesis (life originating as the result of a chemical process) or chemical evolution. Theistic evolution aside, abiogenesis being false is consistent with the biblical view that God created life.

Death before the Fall? A significant pillar in the young earth view is that the fall of Adam and Eve did not merely change the nature of humanity but it changed the nature of creation. Death itself, for all forms of non-plant life, did not exist until Adam and Eve rebelled against God. Here, in contrast to the previous two points, the young earth view is at odds with the framework and old earth views. The old earth view claiming for example that animal death was part of God’s provision in preparing the planet for advanced life. Advocates of both framework and old earth views contend that passages in the New Testament cited in support of the young earth view (e.g. Romans 8) are limited in scope to humanity.

Has the seventh day ended? Citing clues from Genesis itself as well as other passages, both framework and old earth contend that the seventh day, which is first mentioned in Genesis, has not in fact ended. The old earth view claims that God’s rest (especially as it is described in Hebrews) continues from the end of God’s creative activity in Genesis until a “new heaven and a new earth” (Revelation 21:1) are created. In contrast, the framework view denies any dispensational view that looks to fulfillment of prophecies in what are literary devices. They contend that the seventh day refers to a heavenly reality of the eternal rest that all Christians are called to in Hebrews 4. Among other arguments, the young earth view bases the ending of the seventh day on how the entire creation week is a sequence of literal days.

In summary, I would like to offer the following table as a visual aid to the content of this post.

Premise/Assertion 24-hour Day-Age Framework
Days are “literal” and represent a chronological sequence Yes Yes No, topical not chronological
Seventh Day has ended Yes No, it will end with new creation No, It is eternal
Perspective of science Scripture should not be subordinated to science Concordism Scripture should not be subordinated to science
Animal Death prior to the Fall of Man No Yes Yes

In the next post I would like to explore what I believe are the implications of this overlap between the various views of creation. In particular I want to explore the why it is significant that the overlap varies depending on the topic being considered.


[1] Hermeneutics is the art and science of Biblical interpretation. The highest goal one can have is to determine the intent of the original author. This involves understanding the historical setting in which was written, the original audience, and the genre or style of writing being considered.

[2] By this I mean that the more that is learned from microbiology about how complex life actually is, the more intractable problems appear. Various naturalistic processes are proposed for different steps in the process of chemical evolution, but abiogenesis has yet to demonstrated in the lab. When or if, abiogenesis is seen in a laboratory, it will be the result of tremendous effort by intelligent agents intervening in the process. It will then be incumbent upon the scientific community to demonstrate how this could happen apart from intelligent agency.

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  1. This is my first time reading you blog but I can already tell that I am going to be a huge fan. I do have a couple of questions though. You state that YEC and Framework have in common that both think scripture should not be subordinate to science. Is that not also true of OEC? I mean while they think science wil concord with scripture I’m not sure concordism entails that scripture should be subordinate to science. My other question is about if that is even a defining characteristic of the framework model. From what I understand the framework model to be, and I could be mistaken, it is much closer to the NOMA of Gould. That is, that it just thinks that Genesis is not even talking about science in the first place. So it shouldn’t submit to science because it’s not even making scientific claims. Whereas YEC thinks that our scientific theories should be subordinate to the scientific claims of scripture. Do you think that is a valid interpetation of the 3 models?

    • Tyler,
      Thanks for your comments and questions. The positions of the various views I have summarized here are what the various proponents contend. I did not qualify each position with the various back and forth that one would find in the books like The Genesis Debate. That being said, I think the OEC view of how science and scripture relate to one another is caricatured by the framework and young earth views. Both views insist that science should not have a role in the interpretation of scripture and thus are on the “same side” relative to the OEC view. The YE view claims that the shift away from YEC is the result of accommodation to science since the 19th century. The framework view simply contends that the connections to science (like seeing a chronology in the creation week) are simply not present in the text. They contend that forcing the science into the text. In The Genesis Debate, Irons and Kline write:
      “Despite our areas of agreement with Ross and Archer, we reject the hermeneutic they employ in arriving at their day-age interpretation. That hermeneutic may be described as an extreme form of concordism in which they interpret the text as providing a detailed, scientifically testable model of cosmic origins.” (1)
      They go on to advocate a role for science they describe as “Scripture first, science later,” drawing from the following quotation of Henri Blocher,
      “We conclude that the place of the sciences in the reading of the Bible is this: they have neither authority, nor even a substantial ministerial role within the actual interpretation; they act as warnings and confirmations at a later stage.” (2)
      In a later section, drawing on the Westminster Confession (“The infallible rule of interpretation of Scripture is the Scripture itself.”), they eschew the “maximally literal hermeneutic” of the young earth view. “Instead, we commit ourselves to the principle that Scripture interprets itself. In some cases, this procedure may allow us to reconcile the text with certain aspects of scientifically interpreted natural revelation. But if and when it does not, we will steadfastly uphold the presuppositional authority of Scripture over natural revelation and argue that we must reinterpret natural revelation accordingly.” (3)
      My disagreement with this point of view is that it excludes natural revelation in an a priori manner. When clearer passages are available that can be brought to bear on a less clear passage, that principle works. However, the tremendously unique nature of the creation narrative is not repeated in a more precise manner.
      As to your comparison between the framework view and NOMA, I must admit that functionally speaking they are the same with regard to science and the Bible. Having read Gould last fall for one my classes, I suspect such a parallel is another indictment of the framework view.

      (1) J. Ligon Duncan III et al., The Genesis Debate : Three Views on the Days of Creation, ed. David G. Hagopian (Global Publishing Services, 2000), 180.
      (2) Ibid., 181.
      (3) Ibid., 285.

  2. Milton Robins says:

    Outstanding job, Ken–

    I was wondering if there was going to be a follow-up to your first post on this subject. I can’t wait for part 2.

  3. Hi Ken,
    I just wanted to point out the Reasons to Believe, who are probably the leading proponents of the Day-Age view, believe the seventh day ended with the creation of Eve. They also state that the bible is the final authority on all matters which it addresses (in answer to whether they take science or the bible as supreme).
    Thanks for the great post,
    Greg

    • Greg,
      I have not read any material from RTB’s website on this topic. My description of the Day-Age view is drawn from The Genesis Debate. In that volume the Day-Age view is presented by Hugh Ross and Gleason Archer. Here are two relevant quotes on the nature of the seventh day according to this view and Dr. Ross.
      “The seventh day of God’s creation week continues still. From the words of Scripture, we can infer that this seventh day will continue until God permanently conquers evil at the final judgment.” (1)

      “Revelation 21 reveals that the seventh day will eventually come to an end (after evil is conquered) as God resumes His creative endeavors in the making of a new heaven and earth, a new cosmos with new physical laws, appropriate, as always, to the fulfillment of His divine purpose and plans.” (2)

      As to how the Day-Age view approaches science and the Bible, I completely agree. What I was trying to present in this post is how these three views approach these topics. As I indicated in my post, I think the Day-Age view in particular, and concordism in general are caricatured by those views that diminish science.

      (1) J. Ligon Duncan III et al., The Genesis Debate : Three Views on the Days of Creation, ed. David G. Hagopian (Global Publishing Services, 2000), 123.
      (2) Hugh Ross, The Genesis Question: Scientific Advances and the Accuracy of Genesis, 1998th ed. (Colorado Springs, CO: Navpress, 1998), 64.

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